One day a visitor came to have an interview with Pir-o-Murshid. He was a lawyer, materialist and atheist, besides was greatly opposed to all who did not belong to his nation, and had been turned against the work of Murshid by somebody. Therefore he began his conversation expressing with vigour his attitude.

But as he got answers, so it seemed as if the fire of opposition met with water, and as he went along in his dispute, he, instead of getting hotter, became cooler. He had expected to hear from the Murshid spiritual beliefs that he could argue upon and tear them to pieces, but he found Murshid’s belief not very different from what he himself believed.

He found no effort on the part of Murshid to force his ideas upon anybody. He saw in Murshid the tendency to appreciate every kind of idea, for in every idea there is a good side, and he felt that the tendency was to be sympathetic rather than antagonistic. He saw that there was nothing that Murshid stood for, but only believed that the truth was in every heart, and no one else can give it to another unless it rose up from the heart of a person as a spring of water from the mountain.

He became so softened in his tone and in his manner after an hour’s conversation that he parted quite a different man from what he had come. He shook hands with Pir-o-Murshid and said “We shall always be friends,” and Murshid thought it was not a small achievement.